Hi, everyone!
This week we’re doing something a little bit different. We’ve recorded a podcast, where we chat about our Christmas preparations and our plans for 2023. We hope you’ll enjoy it–we plan to do these podcast episodes every month or so, just because–well, we love talking to each other, and let’s face it: talking is so much easier than writing!
Please leave a comment if the spirit moves you to do so. As Kristin mentions in our conversation, we love your comments and learn from them! Some of you are further ahead on your empty nest journeys, and we reap the benefits of your wisdom.

Frances would like you to know she made a bit of Freudian slip when she was talking happy marriages. The wisdom she was trying to convey was “A happy marriage is one where each spouse thinks they got the better end of the bargain.” What she actually said was, basically, “My husband is a very lucky man.” Which, let’s face it, he is. (Just kidding: Frances has no idea how she ended up with the Best Human Being on the Face of the Planet).
We both wish you the happiest of holidays! Thank you for reading–and for listening!
Much love,
Kristin and Frances
P.S. Frances here: The lovely Christmas music at the beginning and end of the podcast is courtesy of Kristin’s enormously talented son, Jonah. Next year, we’ll get one of my sons to whistle “Jingle Bells”!